you will know if youre a preterist scripture denying disciple of Calvin or a Bible believing follower of Jesus!. I am a crazy renewal charismatic and a covenant theologian but NOT a Calvinist. May the same be done to Bob Coy. I say yes. Police later spoke with the victim in September 2015, but she said she was not sure whether she wanted to go through with a criminal investigation or testify. Debbie, Larrythe next few days are going to be very difficult for you. A day with DC having make-up applied by a makeup artist. No thats not a fulfillment of prophecy, that was just those pesky Zionists, who made that happen, no it wasnt God fulfilling his word and the prophecies in the O.T concerning Israel. #473, great post. Just one final thing, after youve read those 4 books, just stop, dont go any further. My prayers are with all concerned. Im just sick to death of Christians jumping all over each other when theyve fallen. Someone else may have more info on this subject. Diane was the first pulled out of the car. Not everyone has the same weakness so Let him who has no sin throw the first rock ! Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. Dusty, sorry for shooting from the hip on that one. It shows just how broken the Calvary System is. So if you can recommend a Biblically sound local church that would be great. That is a myth that needs to be wiped out. Bad choices can entrap us, but with God we can hope for healing in this situation. 2016) Family; Parents: Not Available: Wife: Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. Im not too concerned about Bob Coy right now.. It was very beautiful and solemn there. As someone who has been a casualty of infidelity, such candor and humility helps to answer some of my own long unhealed hurts from that time. Thank you. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. I hear the CC folks come on hear and proclaimwell were all sinners and only Jesus was perfect!yet they give Jesus-like powers to their Pastor rock star leaders in the form of the Moses Model where the Senior Pastor has all the power. MLD, so satan has been bound over that 2000 years? Deal with that and then come talk to me. Christ the Rock suffered its own scandal a while back and I heard that Pastor set up camp at a near location. Hugh. Stop this! Several people who witnessed the accident immediately ran to assist the victims. The good works and true worship rendered to Jesus by the people in this fellowship need to honored, promoted and protected within a leadership environment that regards Jesus and holy and true or they need to be redirected and redeployed elsewhere . I remember in the late 90s Pastor Stefan asking Bob, when is big too big? and Bob claiming, its never too big. So although Bob did at one point attempt to put rots in Pompano God had other plans, much like Noah getting swallowed by the great fish after being thrown off a ship and subsequently deposited in the land where God intended him to go. Im sure he was forced to leave and CC is doing everything they can to make sure that he will not be remembered. Their lawsuit was dismissed this past July. LOL. Reading Paiges comments really brought home for me the absolute horror for the wife of a pastor who falls in such a big way. Daniel 9:27And he will make a firm covenant with the many FOR ONE WEEK!, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate. , Filbertz Your argument is not with me but with Jesus who said they sit in Moses seat, Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. Its as if he could never do any wrong. @pierreduelz The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption.. E, my atheist friends know right from wrong. Is it true that women paid money to deny the commandment inI Timothy about women placing a priority on the cultivation of inward character over outward adornment by having high price spa and hair days? Coy Randall Gibbs (December 9, 1972 - November 6, 2022) was an American NASCAR driver, assistant coach for the Washington Redskins, and co-owner of Joe Gibbs Racing. We love you pastor bob..u r man and we failbut God forgiveswho knows that better than u. As I said yesterday, I am sure he looked with great anticipation for each encounter rolling it around in his mind. I will answer the rest of these questions if you answer mine. What would Jesus do? Megachurch Pastor Bob Coy abruptly resigned Sunday afternoon, ending his 30-year leadership at one of the largest churches in the country. Since you have only been taught the CC line yes, Satan has been bound for the past 2,000 years. Why is that, exactly? That is so true. Smith even launched a music label and began fusing Evangelical faith with electric guitars and drum kits. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. (or perhaps the proper way to put it is that she did the research and the study. Mark this day April 8, 2014 and remember my words! And when I was little, they often took me with them to church, and I remember the impression the services made on me. However, if the Pastor fails, I am called to be forgiving and cut him slack. Lots of times these powerful pastors mete out some discipline or are heavy-handed with a churchgoer and not as gracious as they could have been or maybe the pastor was wrong the sheep was rightand then the pastor gives them the left foot of fellowship and the rest of the ginormous following does the shunning etc.so I understand why some will have their moment of glee over this. This is very important for forgiveness and redemption. That is just ridiculous. You got a star on your forehead you dont cheat on your wife. This is very important Michael. A call to Coy on Sunday (April 6) was not returned. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. 5. They didnt have to. In case of her demise, she promised not to file a lawsuit. The founder's son-in-law, Brian Brodersen, left the network of Calvary churches and started his own organization with many of the chapels, including Coy's old church in Fort Lauderdale. I craved the emotional and physical support I wasnt getting. If you want to play silly games it will not last long. Please try to have compassion and understanding for those who struggle with sexual sin. It cant be, for me and for the entire planet. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. Im not one to split hairs but The first meeting place for CC was in a funeral home behind Albertsons in FT Lauderdale, now it is true they moved for a bunch of years to Pompano but only with temporary zoning variances off Gateway but were deigned permission to a become permanent church location, therefore they never settled there. 3. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. All I have published are the bare facts that I could verify through multiple sources. The church is over 2000 years old. hat happened to Sharon? God intends good to come out of this, but you cannot receive when you are in this disposition. It was like everyone was in a daze. Probably just coincidence. one more bad guy to add to the never ending. I can see this except for one very big deal. Maybe I dont have the steps in order but you get my drift. I did not interpret Acts 2 I just posted it. Process and healing will take time. . Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. So Hugh, I think you and others twist scriptures right out of Jesus mouth to make a Hal Lindsey / Chuck Missler / Tim LaHaye point. That's not good enough, critics say. There are many adversaries to the life of a believer. To Andy (#652), Good points. It is difficult to go to church and see this level of temptation going on. But you are void on answering my points even right now you did not respond to the Acts 2 interpretation charge but diverted back to Luther. Well my friends it will not be too big anymore. So, when they said, clean out your desk, he did.. Read Daniel 4 v.16 and let seven periods of time pass over him. They werent doing anything in secret that needed constant warning. But that was a church that brought non-believers in by the busloads. It took him completely by surprise and his first concern was for the church. 22:20), The Lord Jesus Christ commands all believers to proclaim the gospel throughout the world and to make disciples of all nations. Or worse yet, intentionally sinning with the attitude of easy grace for themselves, but holding the congregation to a higher standard. Aside from the fact that we have always had a soft spot in our hearts for her character, there was a primary reason why the shows creators would probably want to keep her around for a while: Why kill off someone who is going to play such a crucial role in the finale? It probably didnt help that Doug Oldham had defected and gone from the Old Time Gospel Hour to Jimmys show. How sad. The pain of church shopping is excruciating, especially since last time I was at Potential I was in tears over the horror I experienced there. Hundreds left or found other churches while Calvary scrambled to find a new leader, eventually settling on Pastor Doug Sauder, a less flashy but respected veteran of the organization. My apologies to all people who are 300 pounds or over it wasnt my intention to insult you or hurt your feelings and my apologies to MLD in reading your post, they seemed very callous and cruel without regard for the scripture that says that we need to consider ourselves lest we also be tempted, so this caricature came to my mind but again my apologies and I want to ask the moderator to take down my previous post since Im unable to do that, Thank you. Ill be blunt. Does that corroborate with what youve heard? Thanks for enriching us. Keep in mind what David was as a youth, A Shepherd, the leader of a flock. WHAT HAPPENED THAT YOURE STILL SINGLE, DO YOU STRUGGLE WITH SEXUAL ATTRACTION TOWARDS THE SAME SEX, OR ARE YOU TRULY A EUNUCH FOR THE KINGDOM OF GOD? Im pretty sure if it had been men, that Coy would have got nuked at a higher temperature. But Daddy held me down and the truck went over me, she said. As one who lives here in S.FL, there is nothing in the news about this. Thank you. This is the book advertised by EricL on the side bar. im sad. [9] This will harden them somewhat but it will pass and they will be better for it. Did Jesus forget or had he not yet read the play book? Changes things greatly. It takes some man to teach people to come to those conclusions that you would never come to without that man. His attorneys, meanwhile, persuaded a judge with deep Republican ties to seal the ex-pastor's divorce file to protect Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale from scrutiny. Sad but true. He found work as the entertainment director at the Jolly Trolley, a storefront casino and strip club, where he said he wasted away his early 20s in a haze of sex, coke, and alcohol. But they do have these pills now. My hypocrisy? 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That makes at least 4 Calvary Chapel pastors that I know of that have fallen in the same way. Yesvery important to kill the messenger. No one is perfect. He might have resigned but I doubt the cash flow is stopping for him. Coy aligned his fledgling church with Calvary Chapel, a movement started in Southern California in the 1960s by Chuck Smith, a laid-back West Coaster who wore Hawaiian shirts while he preached a fire-and-brimstone, old-school religion. Pastor Bob will be focusing his full attention on his personal relationship with God and with his family. Those so easy to forgive-and basically take him back tomorrow if they could many are already in ministry there and climbing the $ ladder there and now that he is gone they are able to cut a bigger slice of the pie for themselves. As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. What do you wish to accomplish with this? I hope you all dont choke on these morsels of gossip. Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. I admit that I on occasion, more often than Im comfortable with I struggle with trusting God. Anyone can read it and see what was said. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. I understand your hearts pain and I presume you are a single young woman so the thought of a man or woman in the ministry falling is very disheartening to say the least. No bitterness here. so it takes two to tango? In fact, he says Capitol Records paid him to party. Loss of respect. Look for your proverbial iron to sharpen your iron. Over two decades, Coy had built a small storefront church into Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, a 25,000-member powerhouse that packed Dolphin Stadium for Easter services while Coy hosted everyone from George W. Bush to Benjamin Netanyahu. Very sad. It was about Joshua getting into the promised land-thats why I had thought it was graduation. Heres another one of your blind spots, Lorenzo, the ravenous wolves that most of you have become. No one really being in charge overseeing what was going on. Might I ask, other than providing a platform for the information about what has happened with Bob Coy to be disseminated, what are you hoping will be accomplished (as a minister of the gospel yourself) will be accomplished by publishing this information? Now we have correctly identified each other. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. Any ideas? (All about keeping that large congregation I guess). Michael isnt a Calvanist. When a blitzed, 26-year-old Coy went to see his brother the next day, Jim threw a Bible at him and told him to read it. Lets look 20:1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit do angels have hands? That was followed by more worship. Do you care about anyone but yourself? You will always have the tow the line soldier types and they have their place in the body as well but if you want to grow in any aspect of life spiritual or other wise seek out those you respect and let them help you to the next rung a person of good character will be happy to share their life experience to build you up, those that criticize have nothing to offer in the first place. on and on ad nauseum ] The real power wont be shown by succumbing to any of these dangers. No excuses, no buts. Thats where she is from. Others have met as well so we are a bit of a family although not admired by all. Hugh, You showed nother in John 6. There were ample cases to make that point. Anonymity has been part of my schtick too for most of the time here. Unless you have any evidence to prove differently you are wrong. Moe-Thanks for clearing that up. Governance Model does not dictate whether a pastor is more or less a sinnerit recognizes the fact the pastor is a sinner and provides checks and balances against too much pastor-centric power that is a corrupting force. It is never healthy. And bravo to a strong board if they are able to prevent these common pitfalls of a fall. CC has produced a lot of strong Christian leaders but if the wound one might carry had left a scar that is so spiritually disfiguring that it would prevent personal growth then I would agree dont return there but please seek somewhere else. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. I will pray that your eyes open and that you will not fall into the same trap as we all did before. I suspect the local media in Florida will be all over this as things unfold. Daughter, I understand the struggle of looking for Bible based local church. When my Bible says that WHOSOEVER WILL BELIEVE IN HIM will not perish but have everlasting life then anything else is garbage! He is a human that, if I may point out, has transformed MANY MANY MANY lives over several years and has grown CCFL into an amazing place of worship. Unfortunately, Bob Coy like thousands of ministers and leaders throughout the ages before him, thought that the means and process and seeming results justified the end. Whether you are a participant in CCFL or not, the bigger picture here is that Pastor Bob is not Jesus! I ran my story Saturday afternoon. Kempner had a historyand was unrepentantuntil I posted the arrest record. We will all disappoint others, we all sin, but Christ will always be there for us and will never let us down. "When Pastor Bob left, people definitely left too because they wanted to follow him or because they were just hurt," says Healy, the longtime church member. Mary! And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners why not all since you defend one of the sinners so vigorously? Personally I saw through thi scumbag years ago ..he used his popularity to con people and he was smart enough to do itHe never took the word seriously to his heart. there has been NO confirmation of what the moral failure is. Miami New Times also pointed to a long list of other staff who are part of the global family of Calvary Chapel churches and have been accused of sexual abuse, including a number from earlier this year. MLD, satan is bound? Coy's life story is biblical in scope and obvious in moral lessons. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. Others who knew of this pastors sin and felt the Lords call to also speak up, had dead birds put in their mailboxes and were threatened in other ways as well. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. She spends too much money on collectables and is enamored with movies, comics, and television series. I am obviously perfectly aware of what I quoted and what you quoted as the posts show. What are you talking about BD, the context was always Isaiah 11, I never made reference to Rev 5, you did, pulling a Jehovahs Witness move, instead of dealing with the passage, jumping somewhere that had nothing to do with the millennium that I was addressing, so you could try to prove your point, and your pretense at trying to be superior is typical of preterists when they cant defend their view! http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news.. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. The problem is that youre not with Christ Jesus, who looked at Peter with compassion, but youre with a different being, an angelic being who accuses the brethren day and night! Has God randomly destined some for hell? the guilty parties. As a matter of fact is your life faultless?..I know mine isnt yet we strive for wholeness in Him. I bet now that this is being covered by the big media outlets that more will come out. This is not the gospel of Jesus Christ, and the congregation are idol worshipers. Yes, I had to come clean and it was a struggle. So we have to have a discussion on the subject: What exactly is church? We Christians are bound by scripture to be Christ-like in these instances. Even though Bode needed surgery, he wasnt anxious about it. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. Michael, I do believe weve had this discussion in the past in much detail, so no point in rehashing. I know I personally struggle with being physically attractive enough for my husbands desires. According to Jesus definition of adultery, you are just as much an adulterer as Bob Coy is! Hey, Open Blogging was closed and I would usually post something like this there, but I really liked this book and wanted people to get a review of it and see why I liked it. He does need some time out [sorry, lol, seems funny, no pun intended] as he sets himself aside in repentance and prayer as to the Lord, but, sometimes we judge too harshly as if we know all things when it is God who knows all things. What if Sharon doesnt come in the postoperative period? An ongoing issue. Read his book about the Kingdom. I knew/know many who know him and he has no skeletons. Early life, education and early career. More details are sure to come out and lets hope and pray for the best as time moves forward. That shows you how much they initially pledged. And continue to be fed where you are but continue to ask God to show you where you need to be. Pastor Bob Coy and his wife Diane led a Florida ministry that grew to include satellite locations in Boynton Beach, Boca Raton, West Boca, Plantation, Hollywood, and the Keys, according to SunSentinel. In 2017, he was accused of sexually abusing a four-year-old girl. Coddington grew up in Rupert, Idaho, reading all the car and hot rod magazines he could, and got his first car (a 1931 Chevrolet truck) at age 13. In late 2013, Chuck Smith died at the age of 86 after battling lung cancer. As someone that leans amill and reformed, its all I can do to bite my tongue jeesh. We gotta start getting this right. For weeks we have had to listen to bozos saying that we are hypocrites for saying certain unmentionable behavior is wrong while not dealing with this type. independent local journalism in Miami. Its as consistent as the law of gravitythe CC senior pastor marching up the sinner in front of the church to confess their sin publiclythen when its their turnthey want maximum grace and privacy and its a different standard. Flynn, I havent reseached this in its entirety but there seems to be 89 verses on election. Or was it because he was caught? Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! And in this case the best may not be for Bob to return to active ministry. Thats worse than not knowing you are doing wrong. Its the 2nd & 3rd looks that are sin. Ive heard bits and pieces of it, but never read it all. He sat on a U.S. presidential advisory board and received weekly updates straight from GOP mastermind Karl Rove. It has nothing to do with the Bible. At least youre good for keeping a thread alive, thats got to be worth something in the next life. Im a wretched sinful person. Barbara. From what I understand, many employed knew something was going down for a long time. Also, I notice Chef is no longer listed as a pastor. It should take time and healing. He can immediately be restored to God. Thank God for grace and mercysince none of us is without sin. Antonio. So if you have a problem with that, take it up with God. But something is stopping them from allowing that to happensomething they really do not want to share. MLD In your desire to make the scriptures fit with your predisposed interpretation, youre assigning a secondary meaning that the text does not warrant, the text is giving us a period of time not a symbolic application as you are trying to assert. My prayer is that the people of God will intercede for this family and stop throwing rocks into a glass house.. As we look at the fall of David, Moses and others in the word, what makes Bob Coy any different then those mentioned. And my Bible says for God so loved THE WHOLE WORLD Sorry no tulip there! I told Michael he could post a thread to what I shared at Grants Pass almost 8 years ago. You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. That needs to stop and maybe this will be the watershed moment for that to happen. Right now I agree that the church in Florida needs to rally around Bobs wife and children while at the same time taking necessary steps in church discipline towards Bob that he would overcome these sins and salvage his marriage and the relationships with his children if thats still possible. he returns to earth 2.) if youre wondering if Sharon is dead. I just wish I could walk away from everything with millions in my pocket when I get caught. And in the greater Ft. Lauderdale area, Ive no doubt there are many good churches. MLD is a long time blogger here and a Lutheran NOT a Calvinist. I have no issue with him looking at porn. Dustyno issues, sishugs right back to you. 4. Then all were invited up to search their hearts. I dont find that in the NT you will need to show me. We are at that place. So much happened in so short a time-it seemed that after moving from the warehouse to the new building, things exploded. So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. Interesting and worthy of noting: it was called CC Ft Lauderdale and was never in Ft Lauderdale but Pompano BeachHe was called to Ft. Lauderdale but never ever had a church there. Give it to God. He should have been honest and asked for a divorce. 8 The nursing child shall play over the hole of the cobra, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the adders den. Whats the big deal Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is not in Costa Mesa. That passage is no more teaching dispensationalism than ice hockey rules.
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